NOTE - THESE ARE MY SPEAKING NOTES FOR A VLOG IVE DONE - HERE
THEREFORE THESE ARE JUST BULLET POINTS I USED AS PROMPTS - THEY ARENT CAREFULLY CONSTRUCTED SENTANCES AND A LOT OF CONTENT IS MISSING - GO WATCH THE VIDEO FOR A COMPLETE STORY.
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FIRST - THANKS TO ONE OF MY COMMENTORS FOR SUGGESTING THIS TOPIC.
NOW IF YOU’VE STUMBLED ONTO THIS AND ARENT A WATCH NERD
PERHAPS YOU’RE A BIG ALPHA M FAN AND YOURE CURIOUS ABOUT ALL THE FUSS REGARDING HIS CLAIM MVMT WATCHES ARE BETTER THAN ROLEXES
BEING LABELLED A FASHION WATCH IS A VERY, VERY BAD THING - IN THE WATCH COMMUNITY MY FEELING IS THAT BEING LABELLED A ‘FASHION’ WATCH WAY WORSE THAN BEING A KNOCK-OFF ONLY SLIGHTLY BETTER THAN BEING A COUNTERFEIT.
NOW - IS THIS EVEN A THING:
It's a term used by purist and snob wannabes.
OFF THE BAT I HAVE SOME SYMPATHY. WITH THIS VIEW - IM WARY OF SNOBBERY IN THE WATCH COMMUNITY: IM INTO ODD LITTLE OFF BROADWAY BRANDS AND SO GET PRICKLY ABOUT THE WHOLE SHITTER THING…….
BUT
NO - I DON'T ACCEPT ITS A SNOBBERY THING - IF YOU ARE INTO THIS AS A HOBBY AND CARE ABOUT WATCHES.
WHY - BECAUSE - AND MORE DETAIL ON THIS LATTER - IF YOU CARE ABOUT WATCHES YOU PROBABLY SHOULDNT INDULGE BRANDS THAT DON'T.
AND FASHION WATCHES ARE - ULTIMATELY - THOSE WATCHES MADE BY BRANDS THAT DON'T GIVE A SHIT ABOUT THE WATCH.
THERE YOU GO - DONE, DEFINED, LET GO GRAB A COFFEE………….
ACTUALLY PROBABLY NOT THAT HELPFUL
NEED SOME GUIDELINES…TO IDENTIFY WHEN THE BRAND DOES CARE
SEARCH THE NET FOR 10 SECONDS AND YOU’LL FIND LOTS OF RULES
A WATCH PRODUCED BY A MANUFACTURER (OR RELEASED BY A BRAND, RATHER) THAT DOES NOT MAKE A MAJORITY OF THEIR SALES ON WATCHES EVERY YEAR.
OK - SO THATS CLEAR - SO OBVIOUSLY DW ISNT A FASHION WATCH THEN….OK, LETS TRY THAT AGAIN.
IF A BRAND PUTS SIGNIFICANT THOUGHT INTO THE DESIGN, AND PLACES A GENERIC MOVEMENT INTO THE PIECE, THEN BY THIS DEFINITION, IT WOULD BE A FASHION WATCH.
RIGHT - GOT IT - SO CARTIER/SINN/FORTIS/PARMAGINI ETC ARE FASHION WATCHES BUT FOSSIL IS COOL SINCE THEY’VE NOW BOUGHT A MOVEMENT MAKER - OK?…. NO THAT DOESNT FEEL QUITE RIGHT.
OK, COULD KEEP DOING THIS BUT I DON'T THINK ITS GOING TO WORK - DON'T THINK I CAN GOOGLE MY WAY OUT OF THIS.
LETS PICK A COUPLE OF WATCHES I RECKON TEST OUR BOUNDARIES A LITTLE BY BEING SIMILAR BUT DIFFERENT.
MVMT/DW/MOVADO/GUCCI/FOSSIL/VINCERO

ALSO - AND THIS MIGHT BE A CHEAT - IM STICKING WITH MENS/UNISEX WATCHES.
THE INHERENT SEXISM AND RESULTING HYPERFEMINITY OF TRAD WOMENS WATCHES FROM EVERY BRAND MAKES THIS KIND OF MEANINGLESS - BUT THATS A WHOLE OTHER VIDEO IM NOT SURE IM QUALIFIED TO GO DOWN - LOOKING TO SEE TWO KATS AT TENN AND TWO TACKLE THAT.
NOT - NONE OF THIS IS A SLAM DUNK - GUIDE TO A JUDGEMENT
DESIGN
CURIOUSLY IT BEGINS WITH DESIGN - GENERALLY GENERIC/ROUTINELY COPIES/OFTEN RESEMBLE (OR ARE) CATALOGUE DESIGNS

WHERE THERE IS SOME NEW DESIGN ITS ABOUT THE BRAND NOT THE WATCH

OR TOTALLY RIDICULOUS

MOVEMENTS
DEFINITELY NO HARD RULES HERE - YOU ARE LOOKING FOR TRENDS ACROSS THE BRAND
GENERALLY PREDOMINATELY CHEAP QUARTZ - THIS ISNT ABOUT BASHING QUARTZ - HAS A TIME AND PLACE - PROVIDES SOME FUNCTIONALITY MECH CANT AND CAN BE WELL USED.
IN A FASHION BRAND HOWEVER QUARTZ IS SIMPLY A CHEAP DEFAULT.
ANOTHER INTERESTING CHARACTERISTIC - WHEN THERE’S A MECHANICAL MOVEMENT A FASHION WATCH WONT WASTE AN OPPORTUNITY TO TELL YOU


MATERIALS
PERHAPS PARADOXICALLY RARELY IF EVER IN ACTUAL PRECIOUS METALS:
FESTIVAL OF PLATING AND MORE RECENTLY PVD
MARKETING
ALMOST NEVER TALK ABOUT THE WATCH - ITS ABOUT YOU!
WATCH DETAILS WILL USUALLY BE PRETTY SCARCE
ALMOST NOTHING THAT CONNECT THE WATCH TO ANYTHING OTHER THAN ITS LOOKS


NO HISTORY, NO ATTACHMENTS TO FOUNDERS, NO STORY
PRICE
USUALLY OVERLY EXPENSIVE FOR WHAT IT IS



SO LETS RUIN THROUGH THIS
DESIGN - COPIES/GENERIC/DELIBERATELY GROSS AND ATTENTION SEEKING
MOVEMENT - CHEAP OR PREDOMINATELY FOR A DISPLAY
MATERIALS - CHEAP - HEAVY EMPHASIS ON APPEARANCE AND FAUX
MARKETING - SCANT INFORMATION, DISCONNECTED FROM HISTORY, DISCONNECTED FROM THE CREATORS, WATCHES SEEM UNATTACHED TO ANYTHING OTHER THAN AN EPHEMERAL LOOK
PRICE - USUALLY FAR HIGHER THAN YOUD EXPECT GIVEN THE BASE.
NOT ALL ALL THE TIME BUT MOST MOST OF THE TIME.
ESSENTIALLY A LACK OF INTEGRITY - OR RETRUNING TO THE EXESTIALISM IVE DISCUSSED BEFORE - A LACK OF AUTHENTICITY
SOME ‘REAL’ WATCHES WILL HAVE SOME OF THESE TOO. HUBLOT/TAG/JACOB AND CO NOTE HOW THESE ARE ‘REAL’ BRANDS WITH DODGY FEELINGS
GOES TO SHOW - ITS NOT A BINARY ITS A SPECTRUM AND A JUDGEMENT CALL - DON'T LOOK FOR A SLAM DUNK, A SIMPLE RULE.
LOOK AT THE TOTALITY OF THE BRAND AT THE DESIGNS/MATERIALS/MARKETING/MOVEMENTS/PRICING AND ASK YOURSELF
DO I SEE INTEGRITY - DO I SEE AUTHENTICITY - IF IN THE MAIN THE ANSWER IS NO THEN YOU ARE LOOKING AT A FASHION WATCH.
PERHAPS PARADOXICALLY RARELY IF EVER IN ACTUAL PRECIOUS METALS:
FESTIVAL OF PLATING AND MORE RECENTLY PVD
MARKETING
ALMOST NEVER TALK ABOUT THE WATCH - ITS ABOUT YOU!
WATCH DETAILS WILL USUALLY BE PRETTY SCARCE
ALMOST NOTHING THAT CONNECT THE WATCH TO ANYTHING OTHER THAN ITS LOOKS


NO HISTORY, NO ATTACHMENTS TO FOUNDERS, NO STORY
PRICE
USUALLY OVERLY EXPENSIVE FOR WHAT IT IS



SO LETS RUIN THROUGH THIS
DESIGN - COPIES/GENERIC/DELIBERATELY GROSS AND ATTENTION SEEKING
MOVEMENT - CHEAP OR PREDOMINATELY FOR A DISPLAY
MATERIALS - CHEAP - HEAVY EMPHASIS ON APPEARANCE AND FAUX
MARKETING - SCANT INFORMATION, DISCONNECTED FROM HISTORY, DISCONNECTED FROM THE CREATORS, WATCHES SEEM UNATTACHED TO ANYTHING OTHER THAN AN EPHEMERAL LOOK
PRICE - USUALLY FAR HIGHER THAN YOUD EXPECT GIVEN THE BASE.
NOT ALL ALL THE TIME BUT MOST MOST OF THE TIME.
ESSENTIALLY A LACK OF INTEGRITY - OR RETRUNING TO THE EXESTIALISM IVE DISCUSSED BEFORE - A LACK OF AUTHENTICITY
SOME ‘REAL’ WATCHES WILL HAVE SOME OF THESE TOO. HUBLOT/TAG/JACOB AND CO NOTE HOW THESE ARE ‘REAL’ BRANDS WITH DODGY FEELINGS
GOES TO SHOW - ITS NOT A BINARY ITS A SPECTRUM AND A JUDGEMENT CALL - DON'T LOOK FOR A SLAM DUNK, A SIMPLE RULE.
LOOK AT THE TOTALITY OF THE BRAND AT THE DESIGNS/MATERIALS/MARKETING/MOVEMENTS/PRICING AND ASK YOURSELF
DO I SEE INTEGRITY - DO I SEE AUTHENTICITY - IF IN THE MAIN THE ANSWER IS NO THEN YOU ARE LOOKING AT A FASHION WATCH.
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